I don't get it, I just bought UT3, and I know it only recently came out, but there's only like 5 populated servers on the planet judging by my server list, and the all seeing eye doesn't even support the game. Were UT2004 and 2003 this bad when they first came out? I'm in aus and we have like 1server available with an acctualy population. UT is like THE competitive online FPS, so whats up with the lack of players:? The engine scales wonderfully so it can't be a hardware thing.
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Maybe my server list is broken? QUOTE='Pedro'Also UT never had a lot of fans outside of Europe JPRussell Yeah, I don't get that part. I always assumed UT was really popular, but I've been told that UT3's low server and player population is normal for a UT game. You always hear so much about it in the world of MP gaming, so why doesn't it have a more active online community? You'd think it would be absolutely enormous for all the talk you hear of it.
I don't know who told you that, normally the UT community IS enormous. UT2004 was insanley popular, I'm unsure how it is now, but it used to be flooded with people at all times. UT3 is the first time I've seen a UT game without a major fanbase. It just makes no sence, 2004 was basically 2003 + a few extra's, UT3 is a complete engine overhawl. After spending so much money for very little with 04, you'd think they'd be willing to pay out for this. QUOTE='JPRussell'QUOTE='Pedro'Also UT never had a lot of fans outside of Europe CobranVidia Yeah, I don't get that part.
More or less 3 parts of the gaming world: Europe, North America, and Asia. Shooter's don't sell really well in Asia, period. North America is for the most part the U.S., and since UT does not feature the U.S. Patriotically killing.something.it won't sell well. It's the same as S.T.A.L.K.E.R., which did better in Europe. That wasn't what I didn't get, it was what Drift explained above you.
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QUOTE='JPRussell' QUOTE='Pedro'Also UT never had a lot of fans outside of Europe DriftRS Yeah, I don't get that part. I always assumed UT was really popular, but I've been told that UT3's low server and player population is normal for a UT game.
You always hear so much about it in the world of MP gaming, so why doesn't it have a more active online community? You'd think it would be absolutely enormous for all the talk you hear of it. I don't know who told you that, normally the UT community IS enormous.
UT2004 was insanley popular, I'm unsure how it is now, but it used to be flooded with people at all times. UT3 is the first time I've seen a UT game without a major fanbase. It just makes no sence, 2004 was basically 2003 + a few extra's, UT3 is a complete engine overhawl. No media go for mac download. After spending so much money for very little with 04, you'd think they'd be willing to pay out for this. That is pretty much the problem with UT3. UT2k4 added extra and had a engine orientated for fast paced gaming.
UT3 adds nothing to gameplay and the engine feels slow. QUOTE='commander1122'one more thing.the single player it sux.and crappy story.i still like the Ut 2004 single player.really so disappoint.of UT 3 TT. Pwilletts I remember reading somewhere that the single player was just there as a way to get you ready for online. They didn't design a real single player story. Its just online. From what I've heard, the single player is an actual campaign with a story and such, it's just that the gameplay is basically a bot match. One would think the regular single playerbot matches would be more for multiplayer preparation than the.
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Bot matches with a storyline (since one would think the focus of them would be the story, if that's all that's different). I honestly think UT could be a bit more popular if they gave it a campaign that most considered to be worth something.
I was actually going to buy UT3 if it had a good single player component. But it doesn't, and its multiplayer isn't my forte, so I won't. One more thing.the single player it sux.and crappy story.i still like the Ut 2004 single player.really so disappoint.of UT 3 TT. Commander1122 Who buys UT for their singleplayer? That being said, give it time. I am sure new patchs and content will make the game much more attractive to the community.
Because lets not forget how moddable past UT's have been. I bet at this very moment there is a dedicated group of modders out there that is making enhancements to the game to more closely resemble 2k4 over 99. After all guys this is the PC community not a console community. PC communities last for years, instead of the console community which alot of times go after the hottest thing on the market to date. QUOTE='commander1122'one more thing.the single player it sux.and crappy story.i still like the Ut 2004 single player.really so disappoint.of UT 3 TT.
SSubZerOo Who buys UT for their singleplayer? That being said, give it time. I am sure new patchs and content will make the game much more attractive to the community. Because lets not forget how moddable past UT's have been. I bet at this very moment there is a dedicated group of modders out there that is making enhancements to the game to more closely resemble 2k4 over 99. After all guys this is the PC community not a console community. PC communities last for years, instead of the console community which alot of times go after the hottest thing on the market to date.Console online gaming ispretty new and is being well accepted, With the continuous growth of console online gaming I thinkit will fair out to always have a community on either game.
QUOTE='Nikalai88'Even though I find the comments that Epic was making about the PC before the launch of UTIII insanely idiotic. I still enjoy the game.
JPRussell What were those comments? Just curious. Generic PC bashing by console players.
UT2004 didn't sell well on the PC due to piracy UT games play just as well with a controller Here at Epic we love the clunky PS3 controller, half the people play with it including the lead weapon balancer, oh and he beats the mouse players The graphics of this generation will be defined by consoles The PS3 version looks exactly the same as the PC one, running at 720p. With no AA or AF We are not removing anything for the PS3 version of the game, infact we are adding to it. Anyways it looks like the game didn't even sell that well on the PS3 either I know its not the most accurate source but I doubt that it sold considerably more than that. QUOTE='JPRussell' QUOTE='Nikalai88'Even though I find the comments that Epic was making about the PC before the launch of UTIII insanely idiotic. I still enjoy the game. Nikalai88 What were those comments? Just curious.
Generic PC bashing by console players. UT2004 didn't sell well on the PC due to piracy UT games play just as well with a controller Here at Epic we love the clunky PS3 controller, half the people play with it including the lead weapon balancer, oh and he beats the mouse players The graphics of this generation will be defined by consoles The PS3 version looks exactly the same as the PC one, running at 720p. With no AA or AF We are not removing anything for the PS3 version of the game, infact we are adding to it.
Anyways it looks like the game didn't even sell that well on the PS3 either I know its not the most accurate source but I doubt that it sold considerably more than that. Can you share some links? Because from what I've read Epic's attitude is the exact opposite. Rein called pc their 'heritage'. About the gears of war port, one of the developers was automaticly making high res textures of the models because they knew in their hearts that they would port it to pc. They also critized the big pc manufacters for selling their pcs with integrated graphic cards. Etc Also from what I know UT2004 sold really well.
More than the ps3 and pc versions of UT3 combined in its first 3 weeks I think. I don't know why there would be no one on servers. It seems kind of weird given what a good game it is and its legacy and all. I guess people only have room in their library for 1-2 big-time on-line shooters, and there were several that came out around Xmas that people like better. PC afficianatos are probably playing Crysis and Orange Box (with Team Fortress 2 on-line).
A lot of console people are playing Halo 3. Then there's the catch-all of CoD4 multi-player.
There just wasn't much room for UT3 this year. It got punted down to the dregs like Time Shift or something. There are many possible reasons for it.
1 - The game sucks, feels like a console game. 2 - People are awaiting bug fixes. 3 - People are still playing UT and UT2004. 4 - It was Christmas. 5 - People are waiting for mods and/or more levels etc.
Zeusgb Another possibility is the stiff competition with Crysis, Call of Duty 4 and Team Fortress 2. Unreal Tournament 3 did came out during a time when alot of high profile games were coming out too. Maybe that is the reason why the numbers have been low. I would say wait a few months from now and let people get bored with Call of Duty 4 then look too UT3 as another game to play. I don't understand why people are saying the game sucks so badly. Okay so you had to use your arrow keys to get through the Menu, so what?
Is that a huge deal? No not at all. The game was EXTERMELY smooth on my PC and I LOVED the fast action play on EVERY single game play level.
To me it felt like a much better updated Quake 3 Arena game that was in Next-Gen graphics with much more interesting gameplay modes.People are right though, it does need sometime to get those quirks that are bugging people, as well as the release of CoD4 and Orange Box already dominating the market. I say.give it time, it's a GREAT game.
Think there's several reasons: 1) I doubt there's been a time in the histroy of video games where with as much competition, especially in the FPS genre The game is competing with Cysis (brilliant graphics / high end tech), COD4 (offering both great single and multiplayer), Quake Wars and and still popular BF2 / BF2042 offering the vehicle 'battlefield' style game, The orange box with Team Fortress 2, Halo 3 if you own a xbox 360. Gears of War recently released on the PC. There's just SO many strong multiplayer FPS games out there right now. 2) The source engine has become a very strong contender for the modding engine of choice. I think a lot of people have gotten used to modding / downloading mods for the source engine.
For a lot of them it, UT3 dosent really add anything they don't already have and cant already do in source so tehre's not that much of a draw to start relearning Unreal3. 3) Not that much hype in the community or media.
Everyone has been hearing about Crysis, COD4, Halo 3, Bioshock. There's been very little talk about unreal tournament 3.
Epic just didn't succeed in building up that much anticipation in the fps communityI guess. With that said I wouldnt discount unreal 3 just yet for several reasons. It's still the most popular 3d engine on the market, half the bloody games recently released seem to be using it. That is going to open a lot of potential.
Learning to use the modding tools for one game might help in modding other games using the same engine, even potentially allowing mods to, to some extent, work accross mutliple games. Aslo it takes time to really build a solid modding community.
Lets see what happens once people out there get some time to actually play around with the editor and learn whats possible.